I think that just the "unreasonably" part of the quote is relevant to his inclusion in the piece.... seems rather appropriate to me to refer to Marcos in that fashion.
Missed you at Cam's party this evening, Justin. Poor Dan had to pretend he liked me for almost a full 30 minutes without support or back-up...
Geez... a couple of cry-babies... Just fooling around with you young turks. Nothing to be overly concerned about... it wasn't even a slam on Dan in the first place. It was more of a comment on MY flagrant popularity... or lack of it.
Read the comment again, Justin...
And you can dry your eyes, Dan... I will still do the 24 hour comic with you someday, if you'll have me.
I know, Justin... it seems highly improbable, right?
I'd be using a differing style if I choose to do the project with Dan. There's just no way I could pop off 24 finished pages with the amount of detail I use for my "Pugilist" stories. Perhaps I'll just use my thumbnail style to actually serve as super-loose finishes...
I already have a small kernel of a story idea I'd like to do for the project... but perhaps having any forethought regarding the 24 hour comic is tantamount to cheating. If so, I'll just come up with something on the fly when the time comes.
Greg:Yeh, I was gonna suggest maybe doing each page as a 1"x1" square! It'd just be a really mini mini-comic!
I don't think it's a cheat if you use an idea you've got prior to sitting down to actually work on the 24-hour comic. It'll be hard enough to actually do that much drawing in the first place - a little forethought should be allowed. Hey, there really shouldn't be that many restrictions to this - it's not a contest.
I was thinking about doing it smaller the next time I do it. This first time I did it on 11 x 14 paper with my brush-pen. I might do it in my small sketch book with a ball point pen, or maybe pencil.
Here is the link to the "official rules" and McLeod's suggestions. He suggests instead of having it be an experiment in how minimal you can get (a natural impulse that everyone tries to do), instead see how much you can actually put into each panel. He says you can think about it beforehand, but recommends improvisation if you are up to it. http://www.scottmccloud.com/inventions/24hr/dare/dare.html
Cam and I decided to do the project a couple of months before we actually did it, so I couldn't help but come up with a bunch of ideas before hand. Just having the daunting challenge of staying up for 24 hours will produce ideas in your head prior to the day. But when it came down to the actual day, it was all improvised. I think it's better that way because if you plan out a story beforehand, it might be hard to plan out the exact 24 pages, and there will be fewer surprises story-wise. Either way it's hard, but if you don't plan it, it keeps the whole process interesting; and might help keep you awake.
My feeling is if you've got a basic idea...say, 'I'm gonna do a story with monsters on a remote island and there's gonna be robots and aliens' is enuf of a starting point...from there you can create whatever story or thematic device you'd like.
btw, I like the fact you guys are using my blog as a community forum!
Here is another comment contribution for Justin's post record...
Hope you folks are all doing well out there in freelance land. Got some recent work that has kept me from completely finishing page 22... gotta get on that.
Funky Kung Fu shirt design, Justino... at least it's work in a genre that you almost care about, right?
Good to hear you've got other work to keep you occupied, Greg...hopefully you'll be able to get back to more eye-ball gouging pencilling soon.
Thanks on the Kung Fu design..yeh, I get to do some cool stuff...alot of the stuff that's in for apparel is stuff I like to draw anyway, like muscle cars, skulls, dragons, etc. I've even worked in a Japanese die-cast robot toy boxer! (got a Mekanda Robo in that one...)
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True words of wisdom...
Is that Marcos in your painting?
Yep, that's Marcos. He was my subject/model in most of my college era paintings.
Does he have anything to do with the quote?
The character he's portraying in the piece does, not him personally.
I think that just the "unreasonably" part of the quote is relevant to his inclusion in the piece.... seems rather appropriate to me to refer to Marcos in that fashion.
Missed you at Cam's party this evening, Justin.
Poor Dan had to pretend he liked me for almost a full 30 minutes without support or back-up...
Man..two slams in one post! I guess you won't be coming out with a book titled 'How To Make Friends By Posting On Your Friend's Blogs'!
Yeh, I wasn't able to get up there to Cam's going away shin-dig; that woulda been cool to hang.
Another fantastic piece, J!!! You are one TALENTED MO-FO!!!! (no slamming necessary!!!)
-C!
I guess Greg and I won't be doing the 24 Hour Comic together after all...
Charles: Thanks!
Dan/Greg:tsk tsk...let's make nice now..or at least pretend to!!!
Geez... a couple of cry-babies...
Just fooling around with you young turks. Nothing to be overly concerned about... it wasn't even a slam on Dan in the first place. It was more of a comment on MY flagrant popularity... or lack of it.
Read the comment again, Justin...
And you can dry your eyes, Dan... I will still do the 24 hour comic with you someday, if you'll have me.
No harm done...I'll leave you two adult men to work out that comic scheduling...Greg, 24 pages in 24 hours? Hmmm...
I know, Justin... it seems highly improbable, right?
I'd be using a differing style if I choose to do the project with Dan. There's just no way I could pop off 24 finished pages with the amount of detail I use for my "Pugilist" stories. Perhaps I'll just use my thumbnail style to actually serve as super-loose finishes...
I already have a small kernel of a story idea I'd like to do for the project... but perhaps having any forethought regarding the 24 hour comic is tantamount to cheating. If so, I'll just come up with something on the fly when the time comes.
Greg:Yeh, I was gonna suggest maybe doing each page as a 1"x1" square! It'd just be a really mini mini-comic!
I don't think it's a cheat if you use an idea you've got prior to sitting down to actually work on the 24-hour comic. It'll be hard enough to actually do that much drawing in the first place - a little forethought should be allowed. Hey, there really shouldn't be that many restrictions to this - it's not a contest.
I was thinking about doing it smaller the next time I do it. This first time I did it on 11 x 14 paper with my brush-pen. I might do it in my small sketch book with a ball point pen, or maybe pencil.
Here is the link to the "official rules" and McLeod's suggestions. He suggests instead of having it be an experiment in how minimal you can get (a natural impulse that everyone tries to do), instead see how much you can actually put into each panel. He says you can think about it beforehand, but recommends improvisation if you are up to it.
http://www.scottmccloud.com/inventions/24hr/dare/dare.html
Try again:
http://www.scottmccloud.com/inventions/24hr/dare/
dare.html
Cam,
You are King-Sexy, as usual...
Thanks for the linkage!
I'm getting more and more excited at the prospect now, Dan. I might start up a sketchbook just for this project...
Dan, do you kinda have a pre-concieved story idea yourself? Will you try to just pop it off without any proir thought beforehand?
Cam and I decided to do the project a couple of months before we actually did it, so I couldn't help but come up with a bunch of ideas before hand. Just having the daunting challenge of staying up for 24 hours will produce ideas in your head prior to the day. But when it came down to the actual day, it was all improvised. I think it's better that way because if you plan out a story beforehand, it might be hard to plan out the exact 24 pages, and there will be fewer surprises story-wise. Either way it's hard, but if you don't plan it, it keeps the whole process interesting; and might help keep you awake.
My feeling is if you've got a basic idea...say, 'I'm gonna do a story with monsters on a remote island and there's gonna be robots and aliens' is enuf of a starting point...from there you can create whatever story or thematic device you'd like.
btw, I like the fact you guys are using my blog as a community forum!
Err... It's not a forum....
It's a... well....
DAN STARTED IT!
yeah...don't you bitches got e-mail?
ribbit!
Hey- to get 20 comments without posting
something Van Halenesque is most impressive
Justin!
I've kinda refrained from posting new stuff to see how many posts I can get..!! Well, not really, but...
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By the way, Frogdaddy, great sketches- I just checked out your blog. Thought I'd post it here instead to help Justin go for the record.
You wanna piece of me, Froggy?
Here is another comment contribution for Justin's post record...
Hope you folks are all doing well out there in freelance land. Got some recent work that has kept me from completely finishing page 22... gotta get on that.
Funky Kung Fu shirt design, Justino... at least it's work in a genre that you almost care about, right?
Good to hear you've got other work to keep you occupied, Greg...hopefully you'll be able to get back to more eye-ball gouging pencilling soon.
Thanks on the Kung Fu design..yeh, I get to do some cool stuff...alot of the stuff that's in for apparel is stuff I like to draw anyway, like muscle cars, skulls, dragons, etc. I've even worked in a Japanese die-cast robot toy boxer! (got a Mekanda Robo in that one...)
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